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Thursday May 24, 2007
Things going from bad to worse for Proton dealers
By PAUL CHOO
KUALA LUMPUR: The situation is growing increasingly bleak for Proton Edar car dealers here, with new models and car affordability leading to falling sales.
In the first quarter of the year, 93% of Proton Edar dealer's network did not break even, according to Proton Edar Dealers Association Malaysia president Wan Ahmad Sepwan.
He said a dealer needed to sell at least 40 units per month to break even, a figure that is not being met as dealers are currently only selling an average of 10 to 15 units per month.
“The accumulated total loss of the dealer's network is estimated to be in excess of RM20mil for the financial year 2006/2007,” said Wan Ahmad.
“Currently Proton does not have a good price-spread among its models. The Proton Gen2, Satria Neo, Savvy and Wira are all priced between RM40,000 and RM50,000. A better price segmentation is needed to cater to different income groups.”
He added that the implementation of the National Automotive Policy early last year, in addition to the tightening of hire purchase loan approvals by Bank Negara, had further affected sales.
He said the association found that most car buyers were not able to buy a new Proton due to the rigidity of the loans and the low trade-in price for their existing cars.
Speaking at a conference here yesterday, Wan Ahmad and other association members also pleaded with the Government to hasten its decision in naming Proton's strategic technical partner.
“The uncertainty of forging a strategic alliance with a foreign partner and the lack of insight in Proton's future planning is further damaging our already falling sales,” he said.
Thursday, 24 May 2007
Tuesday, 22 May 2007
Apostacy and human rights
Tuesday, April 24, 2007
Apostacy and Human Rights
I watched the film on the alJareeza program Everywoman.
The most striking event was the security guard threatening to call the police. It looks as if they do not like the publicity. It was not an official film to explain to the world on the merits of Islam Hadhari.
It is most unfortunate that Islam appears to be a religion that can force humans into detention for such long periods like 100 days plus another 80 days as I remember one of the basic tenets of the religion is:
"There is no compulsion in Islam"
So how do you explain that someone like this unfortunate woman is being detained against her will and deprived of her freedom; supposedly to reform and redeem herself?
According to the SIS spokewoman, even Muslims would be shocked by this recent incident of body-snatching.
The movie lasted only about 10 minutes; hardly any time for crucial issues to be debated for the benefit of Malaysians.
My only issue is I wonder if taxes I have paid have ended up in providing such detention centres? If so I protest that taxes collected from non-Muslims should not be used to fund Islamic rehab centres and the Muslims should collect their own funds if they insist on such programmes that really do little to enhance the beauty of the religion.
I recently watched a movie on the Spanish Inquisition about the time of the famous Spanish painter Goya and the film was entitled "Goya's Ghosts".
I don't think the Catholic Church would approve of this movie as it depicted torture, corrupt priests and how humans if tortured will confess to anything.
It appears that the strappado is still used in some places. But with new techniques like continuous abuse, sleep deprivation and others one does not need such old methods to reprogramme human beings.
The question is, "What do we do about such violations of human rights?"
Why has SUHAKOM been merely a bystander in the proceedings?
Picture: image of strappado thanks to http://inquisition.pp.ru/gallery/torture-01.jpg
posted by H J Angus @ 2:16 PM
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NOEJACOBO said...
hola soy nuevo en esta pagina todo lo que able de la inquisicion me fasina. ma esa imagen que es iguan a la escena de la pelicula los fantasmas de goya
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Apostacy and Human Rights
I watched the film on the alJareeza program Everywoman.
The most striking event was the security guard threatening to call the police. It looks as if they do not like the publicity. It was not an official film to explain to the world on the merits of Islam Hadhari.
It is most unfortunate that Islam appears to be a religion that can force humans into detention for such long periods like 100 days plus another 80 days as I remember one of the basic tenets of the religion is:
"There is no compulsion in Islam"
So how do you explain that someone like this unfortunate woman is being detained against her will and deprived of her freedom; supposedly to reform and redeem herself?
According to the SIS spokewoman, even Muslims would be shocked by this recent incident of body-snatching.
The movie lasted only about 10 minutes; hardly any time for crucial issues to be debated for the benefit of Malaysians.
My only issue is I wonder if taxes I have paid have ended up in providing such detention centres? If so I protest that taxes collected from non-Muslims should not be used to fund Islamic rehab centres and the Muslims should collect their own funds if they insist on such programmes that really do little to enhance the beauty of the religion.
I recently watched a movie on the Spanish Inquisition about the time of the famous Spanish painter Goya and the film was entitled "Goya's Ghosts".
I don't think the Catholic Church would approve of this movie as it depicted torture, corrupt priests and how humans if tortured will confess to anything.
It appears that the strappado is still used in some places. But with new techniques like continuous abuse, sleep deprivation and others one does not need such old methods to reprogramme human beings.
The question is, "What do we do about such violations of human rights?"
Why has SUHAKOM been merely a bystander in the proceedings?
Picture: image of strappado thanks to http://inquisition.pp.ru/gallery/torture-01.jpg
posted by H J Angus @ 2:16 PM
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NOEJACOBO said...
hola soy nuevo en esta pagina todo lo que able de la inquisicion me fasina. ma esa imagen que es iguan a la escena de la pelicula los fantasmas de goya
9:47 AM
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Tuesday, 15 May 2007
PAS CHIEF BLASTS EXTREMIST ISLAMIC TEACHERS
Malaysia today
Religious beliefs cannot be imposed on others, says the Chief Minister of KelantanKELANTAN Chief Minister and Parti Islam SeMalaysia (PAS) spiritual leader Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat has hit out at Islamic missionaries and teachers who impose their religious beliefs on others.Launching the state's month-long missionary campaign on Sunday, he said: 'Islam must be embraced voluntarily and sincerely, especially among converts who come to the religion because of sheer belief or those who adopt the faith because of marriage. 'We cannot force people to enter Heaven. They must do it of their own will.' His comments came in the wake of a spate of recent inter-religious disputes in which Selangor's Islamic affairs department (known by its Malay acronym, Jais) has split mixed-religion families apart by taking Muslim family members away for religious rehabilitation. The actions have resulted in an outcry among minority religious groups - Hindus, Buddhists and Christians - who say their rights are being steamrollered by such Islamic dominance. Under syariah law, anyone who marries a Muslim must convert to Islam, and those born into Muslim families cannot convert. Meanwhile, Jais insisted on Sunday that it had acted within the law when its enforcement officers detained a Muslim woman for allegedly committing khalwat (being in close proximity) with her husband, a Hindu. The alleged offence took place in Klang on April 28. The department's director, Datuk Mohammad Khusrin Munawi, said: 'Certain media reports had made out the detention to be a case of Jais trying to break up families. That is not true.' He said Jais had received two complaints alleging that the Muslim woman was cohabitating with a man. Through lawyer Karpal Singh, who is also the chairman of the opposition Democratic Action Party, the husband asked the Shah Alam High Court to free his wife, who is now apparently in Jais' custody. But Datuk Mohammad Khusrin said: 'We detained the woman based on the complaints and also because she could not produce any relevant marriage documents when asked.' Last month, Jais separated another Hindu from his Muslim wife of 21 years and their six children. He won custody of the children, but the couple can no longer live together legally. In January, Islamic officials detained a Muslim woman living as a Hindu and sent her for rehabilitation, away from her Hindu husband. Their baby daughter was also taken from him and given to her. THE STAR/ASIA NEWS NETWORK, ASSOCIATED PRESS
comments
eco wrote:
There is a time to comment and a time not to. In this case, it is not necessary to do so, as i am sure the comments in the Times of London, WSJ in the great satan, and the Straits Times will be enough to drown out the JAIS / governments legality and moral standing arguments on the issue.
15/05 16:09:54
temanmu wrote:
Chinese were once afraid to vote PAS, but they are more reasonable now than UMNO.Hope the Chinese papers run this story too. -----------I am still baffled that JAIS can detain someone indefinitely ... they are more powerful than the police!
15/05 16:34:46
sree wrote:
My deepest respect to the Chief Minister of Kelantan.. for he speaks words of righteousness.If PAS continues making statements that benefit all the religions in Malaysia, they can put up their candidate anywhere in Malaysia and I am sure the non-Malays will support them.
15/05 17:37:04
FrenchFriedTacos wrote:
Yeah, yeah. But this Islamism nonsense is also due in a great part to PAS' politicking!No point crying Yeehaaw!! after the horse has bolted through the open barn doors.
15/05 19:29:04
suckthumbloh wrote:
Bloody wolf in sheep's skin
15/05 21:12:17
KarmannGhia wrote:
Well said Nik, you go show em
15/05 21:21:04
Beruk wrote:
nik aziz said we cant force ppl to enter heaven....nik aziz way to heaven is not one way....there r few other ways...u can still enter without religion but not without good attitude
16/05 11:12:58
Religious beliefs cannot be imposed on others, says the Chief Minister of KelantanKELANTAN Chief Minister and Parti Islam SeMalaysia (PAS) spiritual leader Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat has hit out at Islamic missionaries and teachers who impose their religious beliefs on others.Launching the state's month-long missionary campaign on Sunday, he said: 'Islam must be embraced voluntarily and sincerely, especially among converts who come to the religion because of sheer belief or those who adopt the faith because of marriage. 'We cannot force people to enter Heaven. They must do it of their own will.' His comments came in the wake of a spate of recent inter-religious disputes in which Selangor's Islamic affairs department (known by its Malay acronym, Jais) has split mixed-religion families apart by taking Muslim family members away for religious rehabilitation. The actions have resulted in an outcry among minority religious groups - Hindus, Buddhists and Christians - who say their rights are being steamrollered by such Islamic dominance. Under syariah law, anyone who marries a Muslim must convert to Islam, and those born into Muslim families cannot convert. Meanwhile, Jais insisted on Sunday that it had acted within the law when its enforcement officers detained a Muslim woman for allegedly committing khalwat (being in close proximity) with her husband, a Hindu. The alleged offence took place in Klang on April 28. The department's director, Datuk Mohammad Khusrin Munawi, said: 'Certain media reports had made out the detention to be a case of Jais trying to break up families. That is not true.' He said Jais had received two complaints alleging that the Muslim woman was cohabitating with a man. Through lawyer Karpal Singh, who is also the chairman of the opposition Democratic Action Party, the husband asked the Shah Alam High Court to free his wife, who is now apparently in Jais' custody. But Datuk Mohammad Khusrin said: 'We detained the woman based on the complaints and also because she could not produce any relevant marriage documents when asked.' Last month, Jais separated another Hindu from his Muslim wife of 21 years and their six children. He won custody of the children, but the couple can no longer live together legally. In January, Islamic officials detained a Muslim woman living as a Hindu and sent her for rehabilitation, away from her Hindu husband. Their baby daughter was also taken from him and given to her. THE STAR/ASIA NEWS NETWORK, ASSOCIATED PRESS
comments
eco wrote:
There is a time to comment and a time not to. In this case, it is not necessary to do so, as i am sure the comments in the Times of London, WSJ in the great satan, and the Straits Times will be enough to drown out the JAIS / governments legality and moral standing arguments on the issue.
15/05 16:09:54
temanmu wrote:
Chinese were once afraid to vote PAS, but they are more reasonable now than UMNO.Hope the Chinese papers run this story too. -----------I am still baffled that JAIS can detain someone indefinitely ... they are more powerful than the police!
15/05 16:34:46
sree wrote:
My deepest respect to the Chief Minister of Kelantan.. for he speaks words of righteousness.If PAS continues making statements that benefit all the religions in Malaysia, they can put up their candidate anywhere in Malaysia and I am sure the non-Malays will support them.
15/05 17:37:04
FrenchFriedTacos wrote:
Yeah, yeah. But this Islamism nonsense is also due in a great part to PAS' politicking!No point crying Yeehaaw!! after the horse has bolted through the open barn doors.
15/05 19:29:04
suckthumbloh wrote:
Bloody wolf in sheep's skin
15/05 21:12:17
KarmannGhia wrote:
Well said Nik, you go show em
15/05 21:21:04
Beruk wrote:
nik aziz said we cant force ppl to enter heaven....nik aziz way to heaven is not one way....there r few other ways...u can still enter without religion but not without good attitude
16/05 11:12:58
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Monday, 7 May 2007
JAMALUDDIN JARJIS MAKES A RACIST STATEMENT AGAINST MALAYSIAN INDIAN IN US>>>> SACK HIM NOW PAK LAH
Reprimand and discipline JJ for racist remarks against Malaysian Indians in California
Lim Kit Siang
The Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi should reprimand and discipline the Minister for Science, Technology and Innovation Datuk Seri Dr. Jamaludin Jarjis for his disgraceful conduct in making racist and derogatory remarks about Malaysian Indians when he met Malaysian students in California on Monday (30th April).During his official visit to California on Monday, Jamaludin met some of the Malaysian students studying in California especially the ones from TPM Academy twinning programme at the Belacan Grill Malaysian Restaurant, Redondo Beach, Ca.One of the students was Sheena Moorthy, a third-year Biotech Malaysian student in CALYPOLY.Sheena complained that during the 3 ½ hour session, Jamaludin passed a few racial remarks on her, being one of the two Indians present there.Sheena has formally written to the Prime Minister to complain against Jamaludin for the “totally uncalled-for racial insults”, citing the following instances:Incident 1 - Each student had to briefly introduce themselves. When it came to her turn, while speaking he interrupted her and asked if she knew Samy Vellu, because he knows him. She did not see any relevance in that and he mentioned it a few times for no apparent reason.Incident 2 – He gave a speech regarding how agriculture started in Malaysia. He mentioned how the British invested in Malaysia and made farmers work. Due to the lack of work force, “buruh India” was brought in. While mentioning this, he looked at her saying “that’s how we get Indians in Malaysia”.Incident 3 – After saying he is going to get MARA to help the Bumiputra students, he looked at her and asked “How many Indians are here?” Sheena did not keep track of number of Indian students so she mentioned that in the room there were two (pointing to another Malaysian Indian friend, who is fair skinned) and Jamaludin looked at him and asked “Oh. You are an Indian? Which means you are an upper class Indian and she is the lower class one” (pointing at her). Jamaludin went on to say that, “Oh, I am not going to help upper class Indians, I only help the lower class ones. They are the ones that need it’. Sheena left the room feeling very insulted as the Minister had judged her based on her skin colour.This incident happened in front of a crowd of about 100 people including students, officials from the Malaysian Consulate, TPM, Tourism Malaysia, etc. But everyone is afraid and nobody is prepared to stand up to speak the truth.I can fully understand Sheena’s hurt feelings at being humiliated and insulted by Jamaluddin in public. All right-thinking Malaysians should support Sheena’s demand for a public apology from Jamaludin.Sheena’s sister, Dr. Sheela Moorthy, who is currently living in the USA and supporting her sister’s education at CalyPoly, is so incensed that she has written to the media to express her disgust and anger that a Minister of a multi-racial country should be making such racist and derogatory remarks about Malaysian Indians at a function abroad, giving the country a bad image. Sheena has also written to complain about Jamaluddi’s biased and disgraceful conduct to several Malaysian Ministers, including the MIC President and Works Minister, Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu.I hope Samy Vellu would raise the Sheena issue at the Cabinet meeting next Wednesday to add his voice to the growing demand for public apology from Jamaludin and to support the Prime Minister to reprimand and take disciplinary action against the Science, Technlogy and Innovation Minister.Jamaludin is still in the United States as he is currently leading a 300-man Malaysian delegation to the Biotechnology Industry Organisation (BIO) Convention in Boston, Massachussets.
COMMENTS
Silver Surfer wrote:
You see why our politics never matures ? There are stupid, ill educated, immature bastards like this jamaluddin jarjis who are elected into positions. The same can be said of those who voted for idiots like him. can u imagine if any of the non malay ministers had done the same thing to a female malay student ? All hell would have broken loose. The press should take this so called minister to task and ask him to apologise.Maturity begins to grow when you can sense your concern for others outweighing your concern for yourself.- John MacNaughton
05/05 14:02:52
Sagaladoola wrote:
This is the FACE of the Racist Scumbag by the name of Jamaluddin Jarjis.See it, RECOGNISE it !http://www.bernama.com.my/b...http://pmr.penerangan.gov.m...http://www.utusan.com.my/ut...Regards,http://sagaladoola.blogspot...
05/05 14:29:14
byTe wrote:
When will the intellegent educated people stop being selfish and come forward to serve the country as politicians.Surely they will have no problems replacing our current batch of ningcompoofs.Sorry... just couldn't help wondering ;)
05/05 14:34:41
datnari wrote:
.So what else is new?I have told time and time again that we, the public is to be blamed for voting in idiots who think with their brains up in their rectums. We should be kicked in our arse for putting this imbeciles in parliament.Now we are paying the price of our stupidity. When will we ever learn that the UMNO-PUKI are all uneducated bastards. They are only good for licking balls and raping their daughters!!Haih.....
05/05 14:37:12
KarmannGhia wrote:
Racist pig!
05/05 16:18:24
KarmannGhia wrote:
He should just hand himself for this shameful racist remark so that the people of ROMPIN can have a BUY ELECTION
05/05 16:29:30
Hockchew wrote:
I like JJ and when he was given this lower portfolio in the cabinet I thought the PM is not being fair to him. Now I think he has lost my respect and he is not fit to sit in the office he occupied now.Maybe he had been polluted with the ketuanan melayu and that he had the right to make racial slur.R E S I G N or we appeal to Pak Lah to sack him
05/05 16:39:20
bumi non malay wrote:
Go and buy spray Paint and paint all over UMNO Racist....alll over Malaysia....or Obliterate Racism in Islam UMNO/PAS cult ideology!!JJ Islam Cult or Islam Tulin??Racism have and will always be core issue in Malaysia......we must have mind set of whatever it takes to Obliterate these Bangsat of society.......there is no more Rehersal in Life....stand up for your human dignity!!....
05/05 17:26:45
ShameOnYou5 wrote:
Jamaludin Jarjis your disgraceful conduct displays your LOW CLASS UPBRINGING and MENTALITY !!!You are unworthy of the position as a Minister... SHAMEFUL RACIST BASTARD !!!Shame On You JJ - You are NAJIS !!!
05/05 17:35:27
ShameOnYou5 wrote:
Sagaladoola - thanks for showing the ugly pics of this RACIST Minister J.J.
05/05 17:37:58
johanssm wrote:
Thank you for highlighting and gave this news a place in MT.It is a disgraceful act by umno people.
05/05 17:42:32
jeevan wrote:
LMAO..loads of outrage value. but as an indicator of the current political mentality, its priceless.get rid of this half baked excuses masquerading as homo sapiens. GE or otherwise, or we are all going down the drain and into the sewer.
05/05 18:11:08
sree wrote:
I am an Indian and I am laughing until I am tearing.. Damn it, don't you all think the STUPID INDIANS deserve this? By the way, they have been mercilessly insulted all this while by everyone including their great GOD, Samy!! No one reported and now just because Sheena is in USA, this matter had been highlighted.Do you know that BN and MIC conned 90% of the Ijok Indians to vote for BN?? It is the Indians who voted, not the leaders. The Leaders are good at fooling these foolish Indians.When will the Indians ever learn that songs, dramas, sweet words and sewing machines given during elections are being used to expand their stupidity?? and guess what, the Indians will complain, complain and complain..Well, that’s life for Indians, I suppose.. They are living in misery and they will die in misery - if they don’t wake up.Sheena, all the talk in this blog is hogwash.. This matter is not going to be taken up by anyone.. My best advise to you would be to marry someone there and stay back in USA.Let the Indians in Malaysia suffer and only when they are pushed into a corner, will they realize how STUPID they had been the last 50 years!!
05/05 20:17:44
Malaysiaputra wrote:
The Indians have to forgive JJ, after all this Dr. is a product of quota isn't it?.
05/05 21:14:49
antirelon wrote:
Just stay back in the US. Not worth your while returning to Malaysia. Advice all Indians studying abroad to stay back if you possibly can.When this idiot JJ is in London, he can anticipate a wonderful reception.
05/05 21:34:11
chee meng wong wrote:
Pathetic Indians. They never can differentiate between a truth and a lie.Don't they know why they are still in the dark until today?Those who went to university and came out of it are no wiser. In fact they are worst.Who to blame? Indians themselves. They can seem to be able to make a simple decision. Black or white. They choose black, nine out of ten times.Wake up please.
05/05 23:36:14
kantutantayo wrote:
This JJ has got his brains at the tip of his cock. Don't we all know this fornicator. I was shocked when he became a minister.
06/05 00:04:54
anon wrote:
Well, Sheena knows about my comments on this racist clown. This is why I can't figure out why RPK with all his connections and support - including mine - will not get involved in forming a new party or be an MP. Writing about it is one thing and doing something is another.Dear RPK, you have what it takes to quieten a lot of loathesome loudmouths who just spit our garbage, be it racial garbage or otherwise.To be honest, your credibility is second to none.Think about it .... so many are waiting for a savior.Best Wishes.
06/05 00:16:51
vanguard87 wrote:
Psychotic comments above. Racism, xenophobia and everything in between. These are the people who are reading this blog.All I wanna say is that I now have even less respect for JJ, but that his comments are mild compared with ones I've heard from others in the past.
06/05 00:22:36
coolandy wrote:
Again I may sound racist but they Indian Malaysian deserves what they get. They voted solidly for BN in Ijok. BN was smart enough to put up an Indian Malaysian as candidate so they UMNO can have Sammyvellu in their palms. Its sad and I do feel sorry for those who has to suffer the consequences.The UMNOputras don't have much respect for non-malays. What JJ said is nothing compared to what Najib, Hishamuddin or even TDM said at one time or another. Remember the keris waving, soak the keris in chinese blood, get out of malaysia etc etc?Think about it.
06/05 00:36:11
Areyaar wrote:
OHMIGAWD! Has this brain-dead minister, JJ whateverhisname, ever really, I MEAN REALLY, looked at his sneering face in the mirror?????Yuckkkkkkkkk!! For him to make such vulgar remarks (racist remarks are filthily vulgar) shows the depravity he wallows in. Wonder what kind of an upbringing he must have had. In one fell blow he has not only utterly disgraced and humiliated himself, his immediate family and children, he has openly insulted his own parents. Can't imagine any parent being proud of having a freakin monumental bigot as a son. Some one demanded that that Indian "hero" Samy Vellu confront this JJ creature on this issue. Huh, like that is EVER going to happen!!This is what we have to deal with at the highest level of leadership in this country: moronic, mangled brains with a dangerous bent towards extreme racism.
06/05 04:08:43
Areyaar wrote:
AND, by the way, how on earth do men with such low-class mentality get a title like Datuk Seri???Just goes to show, any dimwit can get one of those titles.
06/05 04:16:01
r0sslyn wrote:
nothing racial about. patronizing? hmmm...maybe. how many times indians or chinese have said some remarks about the same as that? numerous.. as long as its communal politics, we will always be like this. do indians wants to forget their identity, do malays wants to lose their identity? no.. so we have to live with this great divide. you dont have such problems in thailand becos all speak thai and practice thai culture. where differing culture is allowed, disturbance will occur if the govt is stupid enough. sukarno knows best...
06/05 04:50:21
batangkali wrote:
This monkey Jamaluddin Jarjis is the biggest racist bigot in Malaysia.He treats every Malaysian Indian like he treat the caddy boys when he is playing golf.JJ thinks everyone else is pariah except himself.JJ mouth is like babi backside, stinky & smelly and shoots without thinking.JJ better go back to the jungle and become a baboon or a sand monkey.What a shame to the Malay in Malassia.Typical Melayu arogance & part of the "Ketuanan Melayu " bodoh ways.
06/05 04:59:35
coolandy wrote:
batangkali,what da ya mean JJ mouth is like babi backside.......you ARE WRONG! Babi backside IS much better than JJ mouth.And even monkeys don't want to patronise JJ.
06/05 08:34:55
Malaysiaputra wrote:
Areyaar wrote:AND, by the way, how on earth do men with such low-class mentality get a title like Datuk Seri???==Simple, must know how to carry the right balls.
06/05 12:04:36
anallu wrote:
Jamaluddin Jarjis appears to have stated that the 'dark skinned' Indians were brought to Malaysia as 'buroh kasar' to work in the plantations. If he is such an expert in South East Asian history, he also should know how the so called Malays came to be in the present day Malaysia. If he is a Melayu Jati, he must realize that he is the descendant of the pirates of of the south seas whose main occupation was the raiding of the villages of the islands of the Indonesian Archipelago. The dark skinned Indians at least had their own country, India, but the so called Malays were of an indeterminate stock of humanity and were mere wanderers of the seas, their main occupation being pillaging and murdering with no country of their own! So such men feel threatened when they meet with 'dark skinned' Indians who have long and honourable civilized traditions.
06/05 12:15:52
3suku4tiang wrote:
Melayu Race Doomed with UmnoSayang
06/05 12:18:12
MM2007 wrote:
.Err folks hold on a minute. JJ is from the East Coast. In the East Coast there are few non Malays. There are not many Chinese in the East Coasta and very very few Indians. What does this mean ? It means the Malay folks in the East Coast have not had much chance to mix around and get to know the other races. The Malays from the East Coast are still very 'jakun'. .My friend from Kelantan told me, 'When I first came to KL I panicked. I said 'My God, there are so many Chinese here. Where are the Malays ?'.Not only JJ but the other Jakuns in the political leadership from the East Coast include Awang Adek and a few others..I dont think they are really racist. They are just backward. But its too late. Sorry...
06/05 12:23:08
FrenchFriedTacos wrote:
Hmmm...interesting; one moderately dark-skinned (and by extension - "low class") Malaysian Indian decides to throw some money around and the "high class" intellectual Melayus are starting to run around like headless chickens:http://malaysia-today.net/b...The reason why these Melayus like JJ and his ilk are acting up and increasingly saying and doing very silly things are because as a society, the Malays have it right at the threshold of their consciousness that they are a failure, and that the illusion of "ketuanan" is about to come crashing down like like withdrawal from crack.
06/05 13:09:14
head hunter wrote:
such open displays of racism r common among visiting umno politicians especially when the majority of d audience r malays.sheena shud just have told him to eff-off n walk out of d room. since jj was trying to impress on d crowd that he held d idea of "ketuanan" n that such utterances r still d norm, telling him off in fornt of d students will send a clear message d non-malays r not going to tolerate this shit anymore.better still she shud then report d incident to d nearest police station, then forward that to CNN n all d networks. btw anyone knows if d session was videotaped?it's time d world knows wat's really going on in this country.
06/05 13:59:13
teo siew chin wrote:
"the incident happened in front of a crowd... but everyone is afraid..to speak the truth."WHY is there this fear? WHY do you people give him such power to render you helpless in the face of such blatant vulgarity?You students have failed yourselves if you just let this get by!!!
06/05 15:26:05
badshah wrote:
THIS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL MALAY MUSLIM MINISTERS SPEECH...ISLAMIC IN VALUE AND SUBSTANCE.....she feel "insulted" bcos she adapted to american values....ask any indian in malaysian boarding school.....we experience much worse...day in....day out
06/05 15:58:51
badshah wrote:
it is well known that malay ministers always "susah hati" when they see non malay students from malaysia in outside malaysia...look what they did...derecognize some medical college just cus too many indians....first in indonesia...later in central asia i think
06/05 16:04:23
Siam Lang wrote:
Dr. Moorthy you are now living in the US, I think you are very much observe, everyday how White Americans treat Black Americans & other races. WHY NOT WRITE TO MR BUSH ALSO?
06/05 23:02:44
Areyaar wrote:
Malaysiaputra wrote:Areyaar wrote:AND, by the way, how on earth do men with such low-class mentality get a title like Datuk Seri???==Simple, must know how to carry the right balls. 06/05 12:04:36 Hahahahahahaha. And the grovelling, simpering fool must know how to carry them well. Guess in his case at least practice makes perfect. Question time: while carrying those of others is one thing, does he by any chance actually have any of his own??But I suppose in his pea-sized brain, he probably thinks that saying such vulgar things to a WOMAN, makes him something of a man. Ahhh, but let him to go to India and say it to dark-skinned Indians there and they would make absolute mince-meat out of him. And that goes for Indian women as well. They don't suffer fools in silence. I wonder what bloggers in India would say if they knew what about this minister's racist remarks.
07/05 04:06:01
FrenchFriedTacos wrote:
Siam Lang wrote:Dr. Moorthy you are now living in the US, I think you are very much observe, everyday how White Americans treat Black Americans & other races. WHY NOT WRITE TO MR BUSH ALSO?-----------------------------------------Pray tell, can you provide some evidence for this? Systematic and non-systematic discrimination? Institutionalized discrimination?You're a typical Malay Muslim fuckwit. Because only you inbred village idiots have the capacity for seeing a smudge on a fruitfly's bottom but completely oblivious to the infected pus-filled cyst growing out of your foreheads.
07/05 05:53:10
FrenchFriedTacos wrote:
Frankly, this type of racist remarks are occurring because UMNO is turning into a modern day Nazi party.And its trying to indoctrinate the Malays into becoming kampung Nazi's.If the leader of UMNO doesn't correct this and reprimand this village Nazi, then we should all put a big poster of Dollah up with a Hitler moustache on his face.
07/05 05:55:57
bumi non malay wrote:
MIC show concern about JJ and "ACCEPT" JJ reasoning....case close like Zakaria no Corrupt.......like MCA "Accept"...Kerismuddin UMNO Racist reasoning.....enjoy the Repeat "Days of Our Malaysian Life"........Accept then that Racism in Islam UMNO/PAS cult ideology exist in Malaysia!!
07/05 08:53:24
khairul97 wrote:
i once went to a function where JJ and Pak Lah was there......every time Pak Lah went up for a speach or whatever it is.,...JJ will "salam" and cium Pak Lah hands......he should just kiss pak lah arse.....
07/05 09:07:17
coolandy wrote:
Khairul97,Thats the political culture in Malaysia when YBs go on stage to make speeches.They will kiss the YBs before and after the speech.I agree that they are all arse kissers.
07/05 10:31:01
khairul97 wrote:
i was taught to only kiss my parents and elders hand only.....can't imagine i kiss my boss hand.....hmmm.....
07/05 10:50:54
IbnAbdHalim wrote:
Apology isn't enough. The word is 'resignation'. That racist JJ must resign or get busted if PM is a true Malaysian. Alas! All UMNO men belong to the same category. The opposition must work harder to attain victory. The racists, be they UMNO, MCA, MIC or any other breed must be sent to the Recycle Bin.
07/05 15:29:44
astina wrote:
If its true , shame on JJ and our BN leadership.This is not having the interest of the nations at heart but more to racial politics .
07/05 16:07:05
joeawk wrote:
JJ must have been misquoted. How else can he defend himself except by saying that or he has to resign if he admits that he has made racist statement. That is the norm in almost all countries nowadays.Of course , we will find less than honourable people holding on to the post despite calls for their resignation. We have many of them in Malaysia.
07/05 16:47:42
Jun Seto wrote:
This is one minister I least like. He has done nothing notable in his ministry and very poor at PR. I wonder why he always show a sourish face, as though the whole world owes him money.
07/05 17:58:02
sree wrote:
Why are you all blaming JJ?? Look at the root cause. The Indians have lost their respect and self esteem in Malaysia. No body including the non-tamil Indians are giving a hoot about the Tamilians in this country. These Tamilians suck up to everything told to them by the MIC leadership. Most of them behave like robots with their brains embedded in their butts. For them Samy is God incarnate and whatever he says is the god's message and without thinking they obey him.The MIC leadership have brought the Indians to this pathetic level. So, they deserve the insult of all including JJ. Unless they change their paradigm, the Indians will be the 3rd or 4th. class citizens of this country soon.I WEEP FOR YOU INDIANS!!!
07/05 19:56:23
Dangdut wrote:
Typical of a Malaysian Civil Servant. Arrogant and ignorant. He deserved to be dismissed.His attitude will not forge muhibbah, another stupi minister just like the misinformation minister.
08/05 04:37:45
Dangdut wrote:
It seems that Malaysia under AAB has got quiet a number of "kurang ajar" ministers in his cabinet. So it is true that AAB is a weak PM that he cannot control his cabinet ministers.This Jarjis fellow is not the only passing out racists remarks...
08/05 07:55:44
Malaysiaputra wrote:
khairul97 wrote:i once went to a function where JJ and Pak Lah was there......every time Pak Lah went up for a speach or whatever it is.,...JJ will "salam" and cium Pak Lah hands......=====JJ is a great ball carrier. Wonder whether he will cium Pak Lah's feet if Pak Lah were to take off his shoes!
08/05 08:26:11
Malaysiaputra wrote:
Areyaar wrote:But I suppose in his pea-sized brain, he probably thinks that saying such vulgar things to a WOMAN, makes him something of a man. =====I would think that JJ's pea size brain was so empty that he has nothing sensible to talk about.Wonder how he got his Dr. title . A reflection of the result of NEP?
08/05 08:32:04
Beruk wrote:
MOTHA FUCKING JJ...IS A MALAY..N ISLAM..... THIS IS WAT UR RELIGION THEACHES U???? WOW WAT A GREAT RELIGION N RACE....I LIKE IT.
08/05 14:29:35
Friday, 4 May 2007
Nothing wrong if non-Muslims use salam, says mufti ( mufti perlis i respect you)
By ZIEMAN
The Star
source : malaysia today
Muslims should not feel uneasy or offended if non-Muslims use the expression assalamu’alaikum (peace be upon you) to greet them, said Perlis Mufti Dr Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin. He said there were non-Muslims who greeted Muslims with the salam in the proper manner and “with all honesty, that is, they truly wish us peace.” “Islam teaches us that an honourable greeting must be replied appropriately. Therefore, Muslims should answer such a greeting fully.” Dr Asri, the country’s youngest mufti, said this in a new weekly column in mstar, the Malay news portal of The Star. The Islamic scholar skyrocketed into the Malaysian consciousness after his bold comments last year on the need for religious authorities to stop snooping and spying on Muslims for khalwat (close proximity), urging them to look at the bigger picture and focus on the community’s more pressing problems. Since then, the 35-year-old mufti has expressed opinions on a range of issues, some of which have not exactly endeared him to some of his more conservative peers and segments of the public. In his column, Dr Asri will take questions from Muslims and non-Muslims who want to know about Islam and its application in daily life in a multi-ethnic setting. His views on the Muslim greeting was in response to the following question posed by a non-Muslim: In the Middle East, it is customary to greet people, including non-Muslims, with the salam – Assalamu ‘alaikum (meaning, “peace be upon you”) – and to reply to the greeting with the phrase, “Wa ’alaikum salam (“and upon you, peace”). However, in Malaysia, the greeting seems to be confined to Muslims. Why? Dr Asri said: “In Malaysia, the greeting is a cultural practice established by people in the past. It is a problem of comprehension and interpretation, which has resulted in the belief that Muslims are not allowed to answer the salam expressed by non-Muslims. “This has happened because of a confusion over a hadith (tradition) of the Prophet, who instructed Muslims to reply to the salam from the People of the Book (Christians and Jews) with the phrase wa ’alaika (and upon you). “During the time of the Prophet, non-Muslims who were hostile to Muslims sometimes cynically greeted them with assamu ‘alaikum, which means ‘destruction upon you’. “That is why the Prophet told Muslims to reply with wa ’alaika. The instruction contained in this hadith is not applicable in every situation.” Dr Asri encouraged Muslims to show that Islam projects an image of harmony and that Prophet Muhammad was sent to bring peace. “There is no problem with Islam. All this happen because of inaccurate interpretations, and we have to fix it.”
Comments
astina wrote:
well said mufti .Atleats he knows what he is talking about .Its common in middle east and India as well ..
04/05 10:26:17
Susen wrote:
Dr Asri is a smart intelligent young guy. I had met him before he became the Mufti.I agree most of his thoughts, but, his colloboratin with the gangster CM Shahidan Kassim, has torn down his reputation little bit. Being a Mufti for UMNO guys, makes him less favorable for PAS members especially.He should stay independent from any political platform. May Allah bless you!!
04/05 10:34:41
docomo00 wrote:
an UMNO stooge called by any other title is still an UMNO stooge
04/05 10:45:41
Ricobajaj6666 wrote:
Well done Tuan mufti...now you can see others converting to islam ..not because of this but because you have lowered your hostile stance towards everyone else.Now when you open urself yo assimillation we will all learn to get along...dont u all think so?..so far so good tuan mufti...keep going...
04/05 10:54:40
KopiO wrote:
Muslims in Malaysia has so many taboos. I have encountered this incident before when I greeted a muslim friend "assalamu’alaikum" but was given a cold shoulder. It was a real put-off for me and my muslim friend though I meant good. Kudos to Perlis Mufti Dr Mohd Asri! His comment is based on reason rather than prejudice.
04/05 11:02:25
randavi wrote:
ALHAMDULILLAH...!!
04/05 11:04:37
duncanstuart wrote:
Someone who has his feet on the ground... good on you!
04/05 11:14:20
Menanti wrote:
Assallaamualaikum was borrowed or copied from the Greek Christians's Pax Vobiscum and so was inshiallah which is volente deo. Malay Muslims are generally ill-informed and narrow-minded.
04/05 11:14:54
BobSam wrote:
A breath of fresh airThis is leadership.Now pray for more leaders of this mold.Not leaders who act like monkeys, KJ, etc.
04/05 11:16:44
AngryTaxpayer wrote:
Since when was this ever a problem? During my growing up years in the late 70s and 80s, don't remember any muslims being offended when my dad greeted his malays friends with salam.Just where did all these extremist come from?!
04/05 11:35:28
Otak Udang wrote:
The Malays in Malaysis are very stupid and so how to take offen when you dont know any better? In my Udang travels I have never coe a cross a group of people who intellectually challanged as the Malays. I am ashamed of it.
04/05 11:37:30
johnleemk wrote:
This is just another example of how Malaysians naturally unite when politicians don't get in the way - we can already see it in bahasa rojak:http://www.infernalrambling...
04/05 12:18:13
Angryman wrote:
Muslims should not feel uneasy or offended if non-Muslims use the expression assalamu’alaikum (peace be upon you) to greet them, said Perlis Mufti Dr Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin. ****************************************Why a simple greeting will offense a person, the answers are as follow:1. no confidence2. no self respect3. no EQ4. arrogant5. can't live together with others6. can't stay along with others7. self righteous If you meet someone like these, just say:"Fuck you.". Just ignore whether he is being offensed or not.
04/05 12:20:53
Being Human wrote:
It is the intention or substance of the greeting that is important. It is very unfortunate that many muslims are easily tyrannized by their emotions when they hear the salam from non-muslims (even when the intention of good). Except a few, most religions are not EFFICIENT enough to accelerate the mental and psychological growth of their followers. Rather they pin the majority of their followers (Dr. Asri the exception) to act from the basement of their minds.When religious followers are dominated by their animal brains instead of being more human, they will continue to be provoked by the behaviours on non-believers.
04/05 12:30:21
Peace Be Upon U wrote:
As a malay, I congrat Dr. Asri for this clarification. Melayu need to think outside the box.. Kesian..Even Jesus pbuh used the same salam,shalom, whenever he meets his disciples. One of the occasions was the last supper.Since Muslim also believe in Jesus pbuh as the righteous master, we Muslim can boast as at least the follower of Jesus pbuh in his noble way to greet people apart from other traditions he did before like fasting etc.Well done Mufti...Please also tell hamid othman to consider the request from chinese muslim community to have their own (design) mosque. What's wrong with that..Tempurung Muslims never see this as an opportunity to promote Islam as deen to all..Those who went to St. John's KL did their friday prayers in Masjid India,where the medium is Tamil.
04/05 13:07:05
Task Force 101 wrote:
I wonder why does a mufti have to come out with such statements. Are Muslims in Malaysia such dim wits and have a poor/shallow knowledge of their religion that it needs a shepherd to address even such basic manners.If the answer to the above is yes, then Malaysian tax payers better cry this weekend since for the last 22 yrs their money has been wasted to build mosques in every corner of a housing estate, Hari Raya "gifts" and islamic schools.I guess with poor intelligence even with all the assistance, malay muslims cannot get basic manners right. I think African Muslims with no education or plush mosques to pray in have better understanding of their Islamic religion.Thanks to our dictator and economic terrorist Mahathir, he has used Islam to divide and run a country to the ground and created monkey malays who snoop, steal, rape and pillage the country's resources and then drive in their BMWs to a mosque 5 meters from their house to pray 5 times. Someone should tell them, GOD is merciful only if you are TRULY SORRY for your actions. Its not like a Gov't contract where one perbincangan get you 10 contracts.
04/05 13:18:28
clearmind wrote:
My colleague's daughter is exposed to Islamic prayers in school. So if a Muslim gets offended when they hear non-Muslims recite bismillah, prayers, etc -they only have themselves to blame.I know most of these children make fun of the Muslim prayers & recitals when they are among their own - who can blmae them? We Muslims have "opened" ourselves to this kind of ridicule. We can also be guilty of causing shame to our religion...And forbidng others to salam is another silly thing we do...it has nothing to do with religion.
04/05 13:41:18
joeawk wrote:
We, in Malaysia are not allowed to wish a muslim as such. If I can remember correctly, there is a dakwa which forbid non muslims mentioning the name of Allah as well.Islam as practise in Malaysia is ridiculous, yet they still think and belieeve that they will be the only ones going to heaven.Many must have been disapppointed and escape to came back to the physical realm with their physical bodies and create havoc. How else can anyone explain the ills affecting muslim youth despite their religious studies and enforced daily prayers.
04/05 13:48:58
L0RD wrote:
wtf wrong with just salam sejahtera.
04/05 14:00:19
gintak wrote:
I recommend our country should get rid of syariah court which is redundant to other existing court like civil court.Waste our tax payer money only and create more conflict among malaysians.
04/05 14:12:54
Cranky old man wrote:
Three cheers to tuan mufti!!!
04/05 14:27:08
tokioRain wrote:
I personally dont have a problem with a non-muslim greeting me this way. In fact I am happy he/she takes the trouble, irrespective whether he/she understands the meaning or not. What the fuck is wrong with these malays?
04/05 14:28:02
gintak wrote:
Mereka kena belajar civik di sekolah. Jika menteri kita pun macam samseng (lihat dari gambar masa pilihan raya di ijok), apa lagi dengan murid2 sekolah dan generasi kita yang akan datang? Ikut saja lah.
04/05 15:22:18
badshah wrote:
nothing wrong in muslims use salam in malay too.....arab is an alien language...why not issue salam in malay instead
04/05 16:07:09
badshah wrote:
i wished a malay arabic salam a long long time back...he stoped saying it is "reserved' to muslims....i never had...and never will do arabic salam again
04/05 16:08:50
badshah wrote:
beaareful guys...this is just atrick to islamize us
04/05 16:09:35
mak jun yeen wrote:
SHALOM ALEICHEM
04/05 16:21:11
Taikohtai wrote:
ASSLAMU'ALIKUM to you all!
04/05 16:25:50
admiraltojo wrote:
Nothing holy about greeting anyone PEACE/Salaam/Shalom etc. In fact nothing holy about leading a righteous (NOT religious) life at all. What is all the fuss about in the first place?In fact, there is NO provision for a Mufti to exist at all, in a righteous life. In the pagan Arab religion, there are Muftis aplenty.Salaam
04/05 17:04:09
vigthegreat wrote:
Article 11
04/05 17:09:41
JJay wrote:
Yes Dr.Asri, you are wise man.Hope you are not be used as political tools of BN later.This is type of Muslim who can preach how fine Islam about. Not like the Stupid JAIS Gengster.
04/05 17:43:51
Iblisakti wrote:
I love to hear more original of Islam.
04/05 19:30:15
klmatsalleh wrote:
Enlightened comments for sure, lets hope the Mufti or Perlis is not targeted because of his forward & modern thinking.
04/05 21:40:53
KarmannGhia wrote:
And Matsalleh says it's ok for Muslims to use "HELLO" also.
04/05 22:58:37
jimihendrix wrote:
The problem in Malaysia starts with the education system. In primary 1 the educators start doing their damage to the innocent minds. Children who integrated so beautifully in the kindergartens, regardless of race or religion are slowly poisoned and the segregation begins in earnest, particularly by the Islamic religious Ustads and Ustazahs.By the time these children reach Form 5 the segregation is complete.Then what happens? The government sends them to National Service camps, as if 3 months will undo 11 years of damage to their minds.This guy here has got something interesting to say about this: http://plkn.info/node/13Coming back to the Ustads and Ustazahs, just last week my youngest daughter, who is now in primary 1 in a sekolah kebangsaan said to me that her Ustazah informed the class that "Malays should not say Assalamualaikum to Indians". Now this really, really confused my daughter, because I am an Indian Muslim married to a Malay. So you see the damage really starts with these idiotic and racist and religious ignoramuses who call themselves Ustads and Ustazahs.
05/05 01:31:06
MM2007 wrote:
.CARA RASUL MEMBERI SALAM..Berikut ini adalah cara Rasululah telah memberi salam kepada orang yang beriman:.Surah 6:54 " Dan apabila orang-orang yang beriman kepada ayat-ayat keterangan Kami itu datang kepadamu maka katakanlah: SALAMUN ALAIKUM. . .'.Jadi salam yang betul dan baik sesama orang Islam yg diajar Nabi ialah SALAMUN ALAIKUM. .Bagaimana pula cara Nabi bersalam dengan orang bukan Islam seperti orang jahiliyah. Sila perhatikan :.Surah 28:55 "Dan apabila mereka mendengar perkataan yang sia-sia, mereka berpaling daripadanya sambil berkata: Bagi kami amal kami dan bagi kamu pula amal kamu; SALAMUN ALAIKUM; kami tidak ingin berdamping dengan orang-orang yang jahil (Al Jahileen)..Maka cara bersalam yang baik dan semporna dengan orang bukan Islam yg di ajar Nabi ialah SALAMUN ALAIKUM juga..SALAMUN ALAIKUM ialah cara bersalam daripada Tuhan yang di ajar oleh Rasul. Inilah cara bersalam dengan semua orang (Islam dan bukan Islam) yang paling sempurna. Sila lihat ayat berikut :.Surah 24:61 ". . apabila kamu masuk ke mana-mana rumah, hendaklah kamu memberi salam atas diri-dirimu dengan yang baik dari Allah yang diberkati. Demikianlah Allah menerangkan ayat-ayat supaya kamu memahaminya..Jadi apabila kita masuk sebarang rumah pun, rumah orang Islam atau bukan Islam, kita mesti bersalam atas penghuninya dengan salam yang baik yang diajar Allah dalam Al Quran. Inilah salam yang diberkati Tuhan ia itu SALAMUN ALAIKUM..Apakah yang akan berlaku kepada kita jika kita tidak mahu ikut salam yang simple dan baik ini dpd Al Quran yang di ajar Tuhan ? Apakah 'big deal' sangat kita mesti ikut 'Salamun Alaikum' yang di ajar Rasul kpd kita dalam Quran ? Sila lihat sendiri :.Surah 58:8 "Tidakkah engkau memerhatikan mereka yang telah dilarang daripada perbuatan berbisik-bisik, kemudian mereka berbalik melakukan perbuatan yang telah dilarang itu serta mereka berbisik-bisik berkenaan dengan melakukan dosa dan pencerobohan serta kederhakaan kepada Rasulullah? Dan lagi apabila mereka datang kepadamu, mereka memberi salam hormat bukan dengan lafaz salam hormat yang diberikan Allah kepadamu dan mereka berkata sesama sendiri: Apakah sepatutnya kami diseksa oleh Allah disebabkan yang kami ucapkan itu? Cukuplah untuk mereka Neraka Jahanam, yang mereka akan dibakar di dalamnya; maka itulah seburuk-buruk tempat kembali.' .Jadi janganlah kita menolak ayat-ayat Quran ia itu ajaran Rasul kita yang mulia walaupun untuk perkara yang kita nampak sebagai paling remeh dan simple seperti memberi Salam. Sebab memberi Salam antara manusia bukannya perkara yang remeh. Memberi salam itu adalah sangat penting kerana bersalam itu adalah pembuka jalan, pembuka persahabatan, pengenalan saling menghormati, pancaran niat kita dan banyak lagi..Cuba kita fikir. Kalaulah orang Islam ucap 'salam sejahtera atas kamu' (maksud SALAMUN ALAIKUM) hanya kpd orang Islam dan tidak mahu ucapkan salam sejahtera kpd orang bukan Islam, sudah tentu maksud nya ialah 'Saya tidak pedulikan kesejahteraan awak kerana awak bukan Islam'..Maka dunia akan sah mengenali kita sebagai orang gila terrorist yang tidak mahukan kesejahteraan pun ke atas orang bukan Islam. Maka kita akan termasuk di kalangan orang gila. Sesiapa pun tidak akan mendekati kita atau hendak menjadi kawan kita, Akhir sekali kita akan menjadi miskin, bodoh, celupar, kurang sopan, ganas, terkebelakang, sumbang mahram, penipu, pencuri dan banyak lagi. Semua ini memang connected...
05/05 11:15:47
The Star
source : malaysia today
Muslims should not feel uneasy or offended if non-Muslims use the expression assalamu’alaikum (peace be upon you) to greet them, said Perlis Mufti Dr Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin. He said there were non-Muslims who greeted Muslims with the salam in the proper manner and “with all honesty, that is, they truly wish us peace.” “Islam teaches us that an honourable greeting must be replied appropriately. Therefore, Muslims should answer such a greeting fully.” Dr Asri, the country’s youngest mufti, said this in a new weekly column in mstar, the Malay news portal of The Star. The Islamic scholar skyrocketed into the Malaysian consciousness after his bold comments last year on the need for religious authorities to stop snooping and spying on Muslims for khalwat (close proximity), urging them to look at the bigger picture and focus on the community’s more pressing problems. Since then, the 35-year-old mufti has expressed opinions on a range of issues, some of which have not exactly endeared him to some of his more conservative peers and segments of the public. In his column, Dr Asri will take questions from Muslims and non-Muslims who want to know about Islam and its application in daily life in a multi-ethnic setting. His views on the Muslim greeting was in response to the following question posed by a non-Muslim: In the Middle East, it is customary to greet people, including non-Muslims, with the salam – Assalamu ‘alaikum (meaning, “peace be upon you”) – and to reply to the greeting with the phrase, “Wa ’alaikum salam (“and upon you, peace”). However, in Malaysia, the greeting seems to be confined to Muslims. Why? Dr Asri said: “In Malaysia, the greeting is a cultural practice established by people in the past. It is a problem of comprehension and interpretation, which has resulted in the belief that Muslims are not allowed to answer the salam expressed by non-Muslims. “This has happened because of a confusion over a hadith (tradition) of the Prophet, who instructed Muslims to reply to the salam from the People of the Book (Christians and Jews) with the phrase wa ’alaika (and upon you). “During the time of the Prophet, non-Muslims who were hostile to Muslims sometimes cynically greeted them with assamu ‘alaikum, which means ‘destruction upon you’. “That is why the Prophet told Muslims to reply with wa ’alaika. The instruction contained in this hadith is not applicable in every situation.” Dr Asri encouraged Muslims to show that Islam projects an image of harmony and that Prophet Muhammad was sent to bring peace. “There is no problem with Islam. All this happen because of inaccurate interpretations, and we have to fix it.”
Comments
astina wrote:
well said mufti .Atleats he knows what he is talking about .Its common in middle east and India as well ..
04/05 10:26:17
Susen wrote:
Dr Asri is a smart intelligent young guy. I had met him before he became the Mufti.I agree most of his thoughts, but, his colloboratin with the gangster CM Shahidan Kassim, has torn down his reputation little bit. Being a Mufti for UMNO guys, makes him less favorable for PAS members especially.He should stay independent from any political platform. May Allah bless you!!
04/05 10:34:41
docomo00 wrote:
an UMNO stooge called by any other title is still an UMNO stooge
04/05 10:45:41
Ricobajaj6666 wrote:
Well done Tuan mufti...now you can see others converting to islam ..not because of this but because you have lowered your hostile stance towards everyone else.Now when you open urself yo assimillation we will all learn to get along...dont u all think so?..so far so good tuan mufti...keep going...
04/05 10:54:40
KopiO wrote:
Muslims in Malaysia has so many taboos. I have encountered this incident before when I greeted a muslim friend "assalamu’alaikum" but was given a cold shoulder. It was a real put-off for me and my muslim friend though I meant good. Kudos to Perlis Mufti Dr Mohd Asri! His comment is based on reason rather than prejudice.
04/05 11:02:25
randavi wrote:
ALHAMDULILLAH...!!
04/05 11:04:37
duncanstuart wrote:
Someone who has his feet on the ground... good on you!
04/05 11:14:20
Menanti wrote:
Assallaamualaikum was borrowed or copied from the Greek Christians's Pax Vobiscum and so was inshiallah which is volente deo. Malay Muslims are generally ill-informed and narrow-minded.
04/05 11:14:54
BobSam wrote:
A breath of fresh airThis is leadership.Now pray for more leaders of this mold.Not leaders who act like monkeys, KJ, etc.
04/05 11:16:44
AngryTaxpayer wrote:
Since when was this ever a problem? During my growing up years in the late 70s and 80s, don't remember any muslims being offended when my dad greeted his malays friends with salam.Just where did all these extremist come from?!
04/05 11:35:28
Otak Udang wrote:
The Malays in Malaysis are very stupid and so how to take offen when you dont know any better? In my Udang travels I have never coe a cross a group of people who intellectually challanged as the Malays. I am ashamed of it.
04/05 11:37:30
johnleemk wrote:
This is just another example of how Malaysians naturally unite when politicians don't get in the way - we can already see it in bahasa rojak:http://www.infernalrambling...
04/05 12:18:13
Angryman wrote:
Muslims should not feel uneasy or offended if non-Muslims use the expression assalamu’alaikum (peace be upon you) to greet them, said Perlis Mufti Dr Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin. ****************************************Why a simple greeting will offense a person, the answers are as follow:1. no confidence2. no self respect3. no EQ4. arrogant5. can't live together with others6. can't stay along with others7. self righteous If you meet someone like these, just say:"Fuck you.". Just ignore whether he is being offensed or not.
04/05 12:20:53
Being Human wrote:
It is the intention or substance of the greeting that is important. It is very unfortunate that many muslims are easily tyrannized by their emotions when they hear the salam from non-muslims (even when the intention of good). Except a few, most religions are not EFFICIENT enough to accelerate the mental and psychological growth of their followers. Rather they pin the majority of their followers (Dr. Asri the exception) to act from the basement of their minds.When religious followers are dominated by their animal brains instead of being more human, they will continue to be provoked by the behaviours on non-believers.
04/05 12:30:21
Peace Be Upon U wrote:
As a malay, I congrat Dr. Asri for this clarification. Melayu need to think outside the box.. Kesian..Even Jesus pbuh used the same salam,shalom, whenever he meets his disciples. One of the occasions was the last supper.Since Muslim also believe in Jesus pbuh as the righteous master, we Muslim can boast as at least the follower of Jesus pbuh in his noble way to greet people apart from other traditions he did before like fasting etc.Well done Mufti...Please also tell hamid othman to consider the request from chinese muslim community to have their own (design) mosque. What's wrong with that..Tempurung Muslims never see this as an opportunity to promote Islam as deen to all..Those who went to St. John's KL did their friday prayers in Masjid India,where the medium is Tamil.
04/05 13:07:05
Task Force 101 wrote:
I wonder why does a mufti have to come out with such statements. Are Muslims in Malaysia such dim wits and have a poor/shallow knowledge of their religion that it needs a shepherd to address even such basic manners.If the answer to the above is yes, then Malaysian tax payers better cry this weekend since for the last 22 yrs their money has been wasted to build mosques in every corner of a housing estate, Hari Raya "gifts" and islamic schools.I guess with poor intelligence even with all the assistance, malay muslims cannot get basic manners right. I think African Muslims with no education or plush mosques to pray in have better understanding of their Islamic religion.Thanks to our dictator and economic terrorist Mahathir, he has used Islam to divide and run a country to the ground and created monkey malays who snoop, steal, rape and pillage the country's resources and then drive in their BMWs to a mosque 5 meters from their house to pray 5 times. Someone should tell them, GOD is merciful only if you are TRULY SORRY for your actions. Its not like a Gov't contract where one perbincangan get you 10 contracts.
04/05 13:18:28
clearmind wrote:
My colleague's daughter is exposed to Islamic prayers in school. So if a Muslim gets offended when they hear non-Muslims recite bismillah, prayers, etc -they only have themselves to blame.I know most of these children make fun of the Muslim prayers & recitals when they are among their own - who can blmae them? We Muslims have "opened" ourselves to this kind of ridicule. We can also be guilty of causing shame to our religion...And forbidng others to salam is another silly thing we do...it has nothing to do with religion.
04/05 13:41:18
joeawk wrote:
We, in Malaysia are not allowed to wish a muslim as such. If I can remember correctly, there is a dakwa which forbid non muslims mentioning the name of Allah as well.Islam as practise in Malaysia is ridiculous, yet they still think and belieeve that they will be the only ones going to heaven.Many must have been disapppointed and escape to came back to the physical realm with their physical bodies and create havoc. How else can anyone explain the ills affecting muslim youth despite their religious studies and enforced daily prayers.
04/05 13:48:58
L0RD wrote:
wtf wrong with just salam sejahtera.
04/05 14:00:19
gintak wrote:
I recommend our country should get rid of syariah court which is redundant to other existing court like civil court.Waste our tax payer money only and create more conflict among malaysians.
04/05 14:12:54
Cranky old man wrote:
Three cheers to tuan mufti!!!
04/05 14:27:08
tokioRain wrote:
I personally dont have a problem with a non-muslim greeting me this way. In fact I am happy he/she takes the trouble, irrespective whether he/she understands the meaning or not. What the fuck is wrong with these malays?
04/05 14:28:02
gintak wrote:
Mereka kena belajar civik di sekolah. Jika menteri kita pun macam samseng (lihat dari gambar masa pilihan raya di ijok), apa lagi dengan murid2 sekolah dan generasi kita yang akan datang? Ikut saja lah.
04/05 15:22:18
badshah wrote:
nothing wrong in muslims use salam in malay too.....arab is an alien language...why not issue salam in malay instead
04/05 16:07:09
badshah wrote:
i wished a malay arabic salam a long long time back...he stoped saying it is "reserved' to muslims....i never had...and never will do arabic salam again
04/05 16:08:50
badshah wrote:
beaareful guys...this is just atrick to islamize us
04/05 16:09:35
mak jun yeen wrote:
SHALOM ALEICHEM
04/05 16:21:11
Taikohtai wrote:
ASSLAMU'ALIKUM to you all!
04/05 16:25:50
admiraltojo wrote:
Nothing holy about greeting anyone PEACE/Salaam/Shalom etc. In fact nothing holy about leading a righteous (NOT religious) life at all. What is all the fuss about in the first place?In fact, there is NO provision for a Mufti to exist at all, in a righteous life. In the pagan Arab religion, there are Muftis aplenty.Salaam
04/05 17:04:09
vigthegreat wrote:
Article 11
04/05 17:09:41
JJay wrote:
Yes Dr.Asri, you are wise man.Hope you are not be used as political tools of BN later.This is type of Muslim who can preach how fine Islam about. Not like the Stupid JAIS Gengster.
04/05 17:43:51
Iblisakti wrote:
I love to hear more original of Islam.
04/05 19:30:15
klmatsalleh wrote:
Enlightened comments for sure, lets hope the Mufti or Perlis is not targeted because of his forward & modern thinking.
04/05 21:40:53
KarmannGhia wrote:
And Matsalleh says it's ok for Muslims to use "HELLO" also.
04/05 22:58:37
jimihendrix wrote:
The problem in Malaysia starts with the education system. In primary 1 the educators start doing their damage to the innocent minds. Children who integrated so beautifully in the kindergartens, regardless of race or religion are slowly poisoned and the segregation begins in earnest, particularly by the Islamic religious Ustads and Ustazahs.By the time these children reach Form 5 the segregation is complete.Then what happens? The government sends them to National Service camps, as if 3 months will undo 11 years of damage to their minds.This guy here has got something interesting to say about this: http://plkn.info/node/13Coming back to the Ustads and Ustazahs, just last week my youngest daughter, who is now in primary 1 in a sekolah kebangsaan said to me that her Ustazah informed the class that "Malays should not say Assalamualaikum to Indians". Now this really, really confused my daughter, because I am an Indian Muslim married to a Malay. So you see the damage really starts with these idiotic and racist and religious ignoramuses who call themselves Ustads and Ustazahs.
05/05 01:31:06
MM2007 wrote:
.CARA RASUL MEMBERI SALAM..Berikut ini adalah cara Rasululah telah memberi salam kepada orang yang beriman:.Surah 6:54 " Dan apabila orang-orang yang beriman kepada ayat-ayat keterangan Kami itu datang kepadamu maka katakanlah: SALAMUN ALAIKUM. . .'.Jadi salam yang betul dan baik sesama orang Islam yg diajar Nabi ialah SALAMUN ALAIKUM. .Bagaimana pula cara Nabi bersalam dengan orang bukan Islam seperti orang jahiliyah. Sila perhatikan :.Surah 28:55 "Dan apabila mereka mendengar perkataan yang sia-sia, mereka berpaling daripadanya sambil berkata: Bagi kami amal kami dan bagi kamu pula amal kamu; SALAMUN ALAIKUM; kami tidak ingin berdamping dengan orang-orang yang jahil (Al Jahileen)..Maka cara bersalam yang baik dan semporna dengan orang bukan Islam yg di ajar Nabi ialah SALAMUN ALAIKUM juga..SALAMUN ALAIKUM ialah cara bersalam daripada Tuhan yang di ajar oleh Rasul. Inilah cara bersalam dengan semua orang (Islam dan bukan Islam) yang paling sempurna. Sila lihat ayat berikut :.Surah 24:61 ". . apabila kamu masuk ke mana-mana rumah, hendaklah kamu memberi salam atas diri-dirimu dengan yang baik dari Allah yang diberkati. Demikianlah Allah menerangkan ayat-ayat supaya kamu memahaminya..Jadi apabila kita masuk sebarang rumah pun, rumah orang Islam atau bukan Islam, kita mesti bersalam atas penghuninya dengan salam yang baik yang diajar Allah dalam Al Quran. Inilah salam yang diberkati Tuhan ia itu SALAMUN ALAIKUM..Apakah yang akan berlaku kepada kita jika kita tidak mahu ikut salam yang simple dan baik ini dpd Al Quran yang di ajar Tuhan ? Apakah 'big deal' sangat kita mesti ikut 'Salamun Alaikum' yang di ajar Rasul kpd kita dalam Quran ? Sila lihat sendiri :.Surah 58:8 "Tidakkah engkau memerhatikan mereka yang telah dilarang daripada perbuatan berbisik-bisik, kemudian mereka berbalik melakukan perbuatan yang telah dilarang itu serta mereka berbisik-bisik berkenaan dengan melakukan dosa dan pencerobohan serta kederhakaan kepada Rasulullah? Dan lagi apabila mereka datang kepadamu, mereka memberi salam hormat bukan dengan lafaz salam hormat yang diberikan Allah kepadamu dan mereka berkata sesama sendiri: Apakah sepatutnya kami diseksa oleh Allah disebabkan yang kami ucapkan itu? Cukuplah untuk mereka Neraka Jahanam, yang mereka akan dibakar di dalamnya; maka itulah seburuk-buruk tempat kembali.' .Jadi janganlah kita menolak ayat-ayat Quran ia itu ajaran Rasul kita yang mulia walaupun untuk perkara yang kita nampak sebagai paling remeh dan simple seperti memberi Salam. Sebab memberi Salam antara manusia bukannya perkara yang remeh. Memberi salam itu adalah sangat penting kerana bersalam itu adalah pembuka jalan, pembuka persahabatan, pengenalan saling menghormati, pancaran niat kita dan banyak lagi..Cuba kita fikir. Kalaulah orang Islam ucap 'salam sejahtera atas kamu' (maksud SALAMUN ALAIKUM) hanya kpd orang Islam dan tidak mahu ucapkan salam sejahtera kpd orang bukan Islam, sudah tentu maksud nya ialah 'Saya tidak pedulikan kesejahteraan awak kerana awak bukan Islam'..Maka dunia akan sah mengenali kita sebagai orang gila terrorist yang tidak mahukan kesejahteraan pun ke atas orang bukan Islam. Maka kita akan termasuk di kalangan orang gila. Sesiapa pun tidak akan mendekati kita atau hendak menjadi kawan kita, Akhir sekali kita akan menjadi miskin, bodoh, celupar, kurang sopan, ganas, terkebelakang, sumbang mahram, penipu, pencuri dan banyak lagi. Semua ini memang connected...
05/05 11:15:47
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